more buffyverse.

[kaydeefalls]

I was up way too late last night, because I finished S5 Buffy/S2 Angel and COULD NOT STOP IN A PLACE WHERE BUFFY WAS DEAD. Even knowing that she'd come back. Just, no.

Love reading old meta about these (and previous) seasons. Anyone have any good Buffyverse meta links? Anything that spoils later seasons I'll just hold off reading until I get there.

I have nothing particularly meaningful to say, so quick bulletpoints:
-"The Body" was pretty much the most perfect episode of anything ever, wow.
-I don't miss Riley at all.
-The Spike&Dawn friendship makes me ridiculously happy.
-I really don't get the Dawn!hate -- she can be very annoying, sure, by virtue of being a 14-year-old girl, but I rather like the person she's growing up into.
-Willow kicks so very much ass. Tara too. <3 <3 <3 them both.
-Spike continues to make my head hurt, because on the one hand, he'll do these horrible unforgivable morally reprehensible things, but then he'll turn around and say or do something so perfectly insightful and right that I can't help but adore him.
-Loved Buffy's sacrifice in "The Gift", even knowing it was coming.
-LOVED Giles killing Ben. Thank you. Yes. Ripper is not a nice person.
-Did Joss have some kind of horse budget he needed to fill up? Because suddenly there were a lot of situations in which horses must be ridden in both shows. That amused me. "Well, we just filmed that chase scene on Buffy last week, we may as well have some medieval AU dudes on horses in Angel..."
-Where the fuck did the overarching plotline on Angel meander off to? Everything's all DARLA DARLA LAWYERS DARLA, and then Lindsey gets his evil!hand and leaves LA midseason (admittedly, that was kind of hilarious and awesome) and we're dumped into a random medieval alternate reality for the last few episodes. Which was somewhat amusing, but also took away my ability to give a fuck. I like the characters (LORNE!), and the comedic elements tend to be spot on, but this show is way too uneven for my tastes. I just don't care about them the way I do about Buffy and her Scoobies. If it weren't for my adoration of crossovers and pathological need for continuity, I'd have long since given up watching Angel by now. Meh.
-NOOO GILES DON'T LEAVE ME. (Speaking of which, the spear through the windshield? Wow, foreshadowing Serenity much?)

I have a Whedonverse vid bunny. Which is the first creative impulse I've had in over a month, so yay? But I need to finish watching the Buffyverse first. And apart from Firefly, I'll have only ever watched through each the sources once, which makes vidding...complicated. But still. Vid bunny!

Unrelated to Whedon, I'm utterly failing at completing my tw_unpaired fic on time. My Torchwood fannish mojo has mostly died, on top of my general creative block. But I've managed to get SOME writing done for it, and I am determined to finish, if only because it's already more than half done and I don't want to give up on it yet.

Comments

[secondsilk.livejournal.com]

Yes, season two of Angel is kind of, tedious? But it sets up the awesomeness of season three. Which is good, because season six of Buffy kinds of loses coherance for bits and pieces.

Lorne is awesome. Also, very interesting as a character.

[kaydeefalls.livejournal.com]

S3 Angel is already off to a much more promising start than previous seasons, so I'll hold out for that.

S6 Buffy...well, I just watched "Once More With Feeling", which was even more awesome than I expected, and now I kind of want to just stop. Because I know it's going downhill from here, and I'd rather build what I want to happen for them all in my head rather than watch everyone crash and burn. (I've been spoiled for...just about everything, at this point, though without much context.) UGH. Except of course I can't stop now.

Sometimes I think Firefly's early cancellation was the best thing that could have happened for that show, because Joss didn't have the chance to thoroughly destroy all the characters. I mean, I love how beautifully he breaks them, but still.

[lorax]

Season two of Angel is probably the worst, pacing wise. Though three has its moments too.

For me, Angel had lots of enjoyable moments and characters, and some memorable plots, but it didn't really come together as a show until the last season, which is by far my favorite. That's very much a YMMV kind of thing though, because there's lots of people who HATED season five.

I loved Spike until season fourish, hated him by season six, tolerated him again in season seven and kind of came full circle on stuff.

[kaydeefalls.livejournal.com]

Angel is...I dunno. I mostly enjoy it while I'm watching it, but the story just hasn't grabbed me yet the way Buffy does. Ah, well.

I love Spike thoroughly, and I am really not looking forward to the bit with the attempted rape that I know is coming, because that's one of those Unforgiveables for me, and, just, no. DO NOT WANT.

[lorax]

Yeah. . . that was probably the one moment in the run of the show where I almost stopped watching. Even as someone who was, by the time, not on board the Spike train, it felt. . . jarring. I'll let you get there and form your own opinions though before babbling much about it at you.

And I forgot to say it, but I kind of love Dawn. She was annoying, but it didn't BOTHER me, and I came to really love her.

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

You know, I wonder if part of the reason Dawn was so annoying when you were watching in real-time was because of how *long* you'd had a world without her. It was literally years, and then she was suddenly there, and she just seemed to *annoying,* in the middle of these characters you adored.

I don't know, I can't put my finger on it, but she made me insane.

[kaydeefalls.livejournal.com]

That's fair. She really irritated me in the first half of S5, but she's been growing on me since. I quite like her in S6 so far. She makes dumb choices sometimes, sure, but who in this show doesn't?