day five.

Jul. 11th, 2009 03:54 am
kaydeefalls: TARDIS parked outside Millennium Centre (aliens in cardiff)
[personal profile] kaydeefalls

So that's the end of Torchwood, then.

That cements it. As far as I'm concerned, CoE was a very interesting, well-written, exquisite AU fanwork. But Torchwood canon ended with the end of season 2 -- or, well, properly, with the end of S4 Who, I suppose.

This was very interesting. This is not my canon.

I'm done crying now.

The only other comments I have are: 1. Frobisher was a fantastic character, 2. Lois was severely underutilized in Day Five, and 3. This mini-series was far and away the best performance John Barrowman has ever given. I have never seen him so still. Great job all around to all actors. Gwen and Rhys too, of course, and Andy. All brilliant.

And not my canon. Not even a little bit.

Date: 2009-07-11 08:30 am (UTC)
hope: Art of a woman writing from tour poster (torchwood three (3))
From: [personal profile] hope
I'm right with you on that.

Date: 2009-07-11 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] talulahk.livejournal.com
Yes Ma'am. I could not agree more. Its So NOT my Torchwood.

Sadly, what most of the new watchers will take away is NOT the old core cast (Jack, Ianto, Gwen) but Frobisher, Bridget, the PM, the American dude aka Jack the conman, and a grandfather murdering his grandson in cold blood.

I honestly hope JB never does anything for RTD (except for the already filmed bits of the DW series) ever again.

And I will be hoping GDL comes back to CA for more auditions, I've got a great property for him in Pasadena!


Date: 2009-07-12 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secondsilk.livejournal.com
I'm rewriting canon from about ten before the end of the last ep of series two. In enough time to resurrect Owen using magic radiation and not get Tosh to a hospital. In my "original" rewrite I was going to kill off Gwen and Ianto instead of Tosh and Owen, but I've decided that I'm going to let everyone live.

Agree with all points of this post.

Date: 2009-07-13 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laeliacatt.livejournal.com
Hi! You don't know me from Adam's housecat :D but one of your stories was recced: And Indeed There Will Be Time. I am in the midst of reading it now. It's *superb* and I hope to finish it today (if the office doesn't call me back in before I can have some me time.

I noted these paragraphs, the last two in particular, and found them chilling in light of the events of CoE:

"It's pretty fucking simple from where I'm sitting," Gwen said sharply. "All we have to do is hide Donna in Cardiff until we sort out the aliens."

"And maybe this will lead the Ygrivians straight to Torchwood instead," Martha retorted. "Until we know what they want, it's too big of a risk."

"Risk to us! We're Torchwood, we can handle ourselves. Donna's a civilian. Isn't she an example of exactly what Torchwood and UNIT exist to protect?"

"We're here to protect all civilians, not just Donna. Look, I knew the woman, she's marvelous, I'd do anything to keep her safe. But you can't put the life of one person over the safety of an entire nation, Gwen, no matter how much you might like her."


*shivers* Torchwood, ulimately, couldn't handle themselves. :( And the "life of one over the safety of all" is especially heart-breaking now.

Also? I agree 100% with what you said in your post. It is the end of Torchwood as we know it. If they bring anything back for a 4th season (and WHY?, I ask you), it will not be Torchwood. :( Everything and everyone was destroyed. Gwen still soldiers on, complete with family, but the Hub is gone, Ianto is dead and Jack is utterly broken. I wonder if I have any tears left to shed for the travesty of the excellently played and written wreck that was Season 3...

Anyway, we now return control of your journal back to you. ;) I just popped in to thank you for the story and to mention the prophetic lines therein. Once I saw this post, I had to chime in with a "Me, too!"

Date: 2009-07-18 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaydeefalls.livejournal.com
A bit belatedly, thank you for the feedback! I'm glad the fic worked for you in light of new canon.

CoE was brilliant, but apart from the first episode, it really didn't feel like Torchwood at all.

Date: 2009-07-14 06:03 am (UTC)
msilverstar: (billy ppp)
From: [personal profile] msilverstar
fascinating to read through your reactions, your fannish self versus your theatrical self. I like your fanon solution!

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